I would love to buy the 80D, but wonder if I should buy the 77D instead because of the indoor shooting (the dog). But on the otherhand, if the 77d wouldn’t offer enough features for me at some point, would the 80d make a difference? I already looked into a lot and compared many, I’m pretty sure it’s going to be between the 77D or the 80D. I have upgraded the kit lenses to Tamron and am looking for just a new camera body. Other advantages of the EOS 80D include a pentaprism viewfinder with approx. Normally, my advice would be this: stick with the camera you have, and buy a new lens or two. Beyond the recording formats, both cameras can shoot the same frame rates, though the 80D can only shoot All-I up to 30 fps, and the 77D can shoot 720p at 30fps (the 80D can’t). The bad news is that none of them will really solve it completely; part of it may be fixable with some changes to your settings, while the rest will be improved with different lenses. Later I found that It’s a little bit big to go around with, so I jumped to M3 and feel like falling from the cliff. APS-C is less expensive and also very good quality, though. In terms of chassis durability, and materials lifespam (specially those rubber parts in constant contact with the grease,, acid and sweat of the hands… is there a difference? Looking for a Nikon D7200 vs Canon 77D comparison? What about the lens, from what I understand it’s not weather sealed? I like to do street-, landscape- and night photography. Any recommendations? 100% frame coverage and 0.9x magnification, next to the EOS 77D’s pentamirror viewfinder with 95% coverage and 0.82x magnification. My favorite lens is a 70-200mm f/2.8, so I usually start there… the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 G2 is awesome, and much less expensive than the Canon. In additio, which lenses will be good under 270 dollar? The Fujifilm X-T3 is also an excellent camera, though a bit more expensive than the Sony options. The second area is ISO, where the 77D’s top setting is 25600 and the 80D is rated at 16000. Image Quality. Thank you so much dear friend, The Image Quality setting on your EOS 80D determines both the image resolution and file format of the pictures you shoot. Getting a 50mm lens will give you different results than using the 50mm setting of your 18-135mm zoom. (I think every beginner walks against these things when they develop their skills). Kind Regards. They’re excellent walk-around, general shooting lenses, though they won’t give you the image quality that the Sigma prime does. I did some shots with my 70-300 lens with the stabilizer on, and had the same issues. IN SHORT: I’m leaning towards the 80D (for all the benefits it offers (especially: faster frame rate, faster shutter, better build, weather sealing, headphone jack, longer battery life) but I’m concerned about: (a) not having the feature assistant menu; (b) being overwhelmed with a semi-pro camera; (c) not having the 5-way image stabilizer (even though I’m not sure if this will make a difference regarding anything I do); (d) having older Digic 6 vs Digic 7 and therefore poorer face tracking for action photos; and. The 80D is much better for video, but I’d go with the Nikon D7500 for pure photography. Both are DSLR (Digital Single Lens Reflex) cameras that are equipped with an APS-C sensor. Is there anything in particular that’s making the decision difficult for you? The only downside is I ended up th 18-55 kit lens; I had forgotten that I not only had one from when I bought my trusty 2i, but an earlier version from when bought my original rebel XT. So, my advice would be to get the 80D as long as you’ll have enough leftover for a good portrait lens or two, or if you already have a good lens. Thank You for your answer :), …e.g. The Canon 6D Mark II will cost you an extra $200 (over the 90D) and it only shoots 6-7 frames per second, but the sensor will handle low-light situations well. I compared its image quality directly to two Canon Rebel cameras and three Nikon DSLRs, and that’s not even counting mirrorless options or cameras like the Canon 7D II and 77D. We do more comparison for EOS 80D, Click here! To get better image quality, you’ll get a bigger difference by getting the best lenses possible, or if you’re shooting indoors or in low light, by making sure that you get lenses that are made for that sort of thing. Sorry I can’t give you any better information! Hello,i’m gonna buy a new DSLR.I’ve choose Canon 77d & canon 80d.But I’ve to buy only one. I don’t have a specific genre. – Matthew, I went ahead and ordered the 77D – thank you so much for your advice and tips! Weight is not an issue for me though I probably need to do some strength training for when hike with my 400mm attached to the 80D. If you have plenty of light, then the T7i/77D kit lens will be good (either the 18-55 or the 18-135 STM). Would 77D be able to shoot as fast as 7DM2 or 80D and deliver non-shaky stills in low light and maintain colours? ii) 77D with 18-135mm kit lens. Thanks so much for replying – looks like I’m getting the 77D! My area of interest is Still Photography and am not more into shooting videos. Personally, I prefer to use a 24-70 f/2.8 and 70-200 f/2.8 on a full-frame camera, and an 17-50 or 17-55 f/2.8 on an APS-C. Canon will not be making any new EF lenses. The Canon EOS 77D does feel a bit like a range filler in some respects, using technology already available in the EOS 80D. The XT-30 is a good step up, too. After your first week or so with your camera with manual in hand, you’ll get all of the other settings how you like them, and you can tackle them one by one as you want to fine tune things. First (a & b), don’t be intimidated :-) Do what the vast majority of professional photographers do: set your camera to aperture priority mode, and just leave it there most of the time, and use the aperture to make all of your exposure adjustments, and set your ISO manually. So What could be better option? Also I have a Canon Macro lens, due to which I feel I cannot shift to any other camp? The 80D will be a little faster all around and more responsive (slightly faster frame rate, faster shutter speeds, faster flash sync) but these are differences that you’ll rarely notice. I know I am not ready for full frame but would the 6d ii not be the next step for me? I have done a lot of research but still undecided, there’s so much choice out there, I cant afford to get this wrong. Usually, the megapixel resolution of the sensor is not the bottleneck for image quality… even the 18 megapixel sensor has higher resolution than most lenses that you’d be using, so to get the highest resolution images, you’d need to use your best lenses, usually at f/5.6 or f/8, depending on the lens, and often you’d have to shoot from a tripod, or at least use excellent hand-held technique. I’m also a big fan of the 18-135 lenses (the recent USM and the older STM). I decline to buy the Canon 7d Mark II because of the price and I hope that I made the right decision because my hobby is bird photography. The Canon 80D is a pretty good compromise between price and features. Canon 80D advantages over Canon 77D Higher effective ISO Maximum effective ISO is an estimate of the highest sensitivity at which a camera can capture excellent quality … The 60D has a resolution of 17.9 megapixels, whereas the 77D … Good luck! So, if it were up to me, I’d go with the less expensive body of the 77D and spend the difference on some good low-light optics. I believe it has roughly doubled in the last 8 years or so - meaning that if you have an 8 year old camera, a … Just one question. It’s not important for photographers, only for video. if you’re a traveler and want a more compact camera, or if you have small hands and find the smaller body more comfortable. Most lenses that let in a lot of light are expensive, though, so be prepared. I did break the rear LCD, but that was my own fault. To do so, select the Image Quality […] I’ve been interested in 80D, but now considering also 77D. At the wide end, an inexpensive f/2.8 would be the Sigma 17-50 f/2.8 OS, or better yet, the 18-35mm f/1.8 ART (non OS). Sony a6100 vs a6400: Which Should You Buy? For the purposes of my question, you can assume that this not a significant difference to sway me one way or the other. Actually, today the EOS RP is only $999, which is pretty impressive for a full-frame, new mirrorless camera. I can’t seem to get the focusing right. And you’ll be able to make the most of those beautiful primes. The updated processor on the 77D and M6 will help them process images more quickly, but I haven’t seen any evidence that they’re any better. Sorry I can’t narrow it down more for you… you’ll have to choose according to your budget and your needs :-) Good luck! It sounds like you’ve been shooting for long enough that you may already know the difference, but it’s possible that you haven’t stopped to think about it yet, so I’ll ask anyway: are your images out of focus, or just blurry? So, the question is: what is is about your 7D that you think needs improvement? Could we be looking at camera movement, subject movement, or lens problems that were not visible in the lower-resolution images from your 40D? The increase in megapixels won’t benefit everyone, but it means more detail for large prints or additional freedom to crop. Good luck! I am in similar dilemma and still not able to make a buying decision between these two. I’m Mo a student in the Netherlands. Maybe I’ll just spring for the EOS R, yeah? I’ve read your article and all I can say is it is very helpful. A major selling point of the 90D is the improved sensor compared to its predecessor. The first is the camera’s buffering system, which allows the 77D to shoot full-size JPG files at top speed until your UHS-I card is full. So, the 80D does give you the headphone jack. (Your message: then something like the Tamron 100-400 is really nice, too. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. I currently have a 550D and I’m looking to upgrade. I would love to learn more about portrait shooting, so that’s also something I would like to do in the future. Any recommendations on lenses and or next camera. Thank you. Best, Image Quality. This will going to be my first camera, i want to go to canon 77D, Ihave very tight budget, nd dont know which lens to prefer.for videoshoot. Is the 77D significantly lighter and more compact than the 80D, or is it not a big difference. Most casual video shooters prefer IPB MP4 files because the files are so much smaller than All-I. Between the T5i/700D and the 77/80D, the difference in image quality is pretty minimal. They all have their strengths and weaknesses, but they’re all excellent cameras. Which one is good for portrait or other type photography 77d or 80. To me, the missing headphone jack on the 77d is one of the main issues since I cannot really estimate how important that will be and if I can find another way to compensate this in order to provide quality video sound. 4. maximum light sensitivity. I have already been producing a 10 minute short film and an advertising spot for cinemars in a group of 4, but all of these projects were mainly university related which made me able to use professional gear provided by our university. if you expect to shoot a lot of hand-held video and it doesn’t need to be All-I. In fact, many people are considering the 6D II a step backwards in terms of image quality compared to the original 6D; it has less dynamic range and doesn’t handle noise as well as the 6D. However, either camera will serve you well. Both cameras will benefit from anti-flicker technology when shooting under rapidly flickering artificial lights (such as LEDs, some fluroescents, and some HID lights) that are commonly found in sports arenas, gyms, and stages. Yes, the 80D is a better still-photography camera, especially if you’re interested in shooting sports and action, since the 80D has a higher shutter speed range and will be able to stop faster action (although you’ll only very rarely need more than the 77D’s 1/4000th second). However, the Canon 80D generally has the speed advantage, though it is not a dramatic one. I want to use this camera for family photos (ex: kids at the beach and kid’s sports events), family milestones (ex: birthdays), wildlife and creative shots (ex: night pics, insects), portrait shots (mostly of family), travel, and landscapes. I think she needs more than a regular point and shoot camera. For Nikon, the Z50 is reasonably inexpensive and APS-C, and the Z5 (which was just announced last night) is about $1400 USD and full-frame. I’m looking to update my DSLR as I’m using quite an old hand-me-down from a friend. Nothing wrong with it, and still lots of people using it. Hope you can give me some advice! I currently have the Canon 77D camera. The Sigma 35mm f/1.4 ART is also heavy, though. Thank you so much for such an informative article. and also i have my canon m6 so travel vlogging is not that a problem (because i love travel photography too). Would it be worth it? What do I photograph the most? Also, I have have a Nikon 6006 that I will let her experiment with, but I think she needs a digital camera for her course. On a trip abroad last year, I broke my Canon EOS 40D, came home and sent it in to get fixed, used it for a photo shoot and realized it really wasn’t the same. The two are, more-or-less, evenly matched with their dimensions, with only a few millimeters difference in width and height. If you’re going to do a lot of hiking, or if you have small hands, that might push the decision in favor of the lighter 77D. Mostly, they’re unimportant if you’re shooting RAW, and you should be :-) In any case, you can learn everything you need to know about camera operation in a month or two, and then you’ll be ready for learning photography and will have the right camera for the job. Then, take a picture of your hand (just to keep the images separated, later), then switch the camera to live-view mode, focus on the same subject and take a few more photos. Hi Matthew, First, the 80D has a higher top shutter speed: 1/8000th of a second, which is twice as fast as the 77D’s top speed, and the 80D’s top flash sync speed is slightly faster (1/250th of a second rather than 1/200th). There would be some increase in resolution, but pretty modest, and the high-ISO performance difference is minimal. Camera Review: Canon 80D vs. Canon 90D. Both … So, in general, I’d say that you could probably do most things with just that lens (in terms of reach). As a professional photographer, I usually carry a 24-70 and 70-200mm f/2.8 zoom lenses; I rarely carry anything longer than 200mm. – Matthew. You’ll get better video autofocus. Renu. Looking at the prices it seems I can get either a new 77D or a manufacturer refurbished 80D for the same price. About zoom lens, as you have said its about the budget we can afford to buy one, So I will go with 75-300 Tamron which is closer to my budget. Could you mention that Tamron lens model name please. What will be your advice.? On your camera, the 135mm end of your zoom with the crop factor of 1.6 is equivalent to a 216mm lens. Is it fast enough to capture a bird flying in a good day light? So, if that pattern holds, a 90D and an 88D will be announced at about the same time. The tricky thing is that there’s a big shift in the camera world right now from DSLRs to mirrorless cameras like the Sony A7 & a6000 series, the Nikon Z series, the Canon RF series, and the Fuji X-T series. The entry level Canon T6, on the other hand, has a shutter lag of 0.12 seconds… double that of the 80D. Great article and I’ve read through some of your replies to others. Both cameras are similar enough and good enough that you safely make the decision on that basis. … will 80D or 7D or 6D will give better result in image quality?… it will be nice if you will give you expert advice…. 256 is about 1.6% of 16,384. Between the Nikon and Canon 77D, the Canon has some advantages with flash and video, and the Nikon’s sensor is probably a little better. You’ve already seen my general advice: buy the least expensive camera that meets your needs, and buy the best lenses you can afford. Canon 77D vs Canon 80D: Sensor. Both cameras are great for portraits, as long as you use the right lens. For me, the most important factor would be the top LCD and the rear dial for exposure compensation. The next EOS DSLR higher in capabilities is the Canon EOS 80D. I would be thankful if you consider my question. I’m upgrading from my T2i after about 8 years of use! A 50mm prime lens (like the f/1.8 or an f/1.4) will have two main advantages: First, the 50mm f/1.8 will allow significantly more light to pass through when you’re shooting in low-light situations. The XT-20 is particularly good because it has all of the manual controls set out as switches and dials (rather than in electronic menus or button combinations). I’d be appreciative of your advice! Probably the best value right now is the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 G2, but the first generation will save you a little money and is also a great lens. Not only slow focusing, but I think I need viewfinder in my life. The top LCD is handy for quick checking settings, but I’ve gotten used to it since my first Canon EOS camera 26 years ago… but I can imagine living without it. Here are a few of my considerations: 1) I am new to DSLR photography and have full intention and desire to grow. With its stronger battery life, better viewfinder, weather-resistant design and faster burst rate, the EOS 80D is likely to appeal to those after a camera for sports and action photography, and just generally for outdoor use. Thank you for the detailed comparison. I find that it’s easier to study the camera for an afternoon and learn the basics of photography than it is to try to figure things out from the back of the camera while shooting, so I don’t find the beginner’s menu helpful… but that’s a matter of personal preference. Of course, if you’re also frequently a sports photographer, there’s short argument to be made for getting the 80D, but it sounds like that’s not your focus. thanks in advance for your advice. The Canon 77D (around $550, now) or 90D would both be great options. Hi Matthew, Thanks!! From fast I don’t mean shooting at 1/8000 SS but the amount of struggle when the light is low. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. For RAW shooters the performance is probably very similar to the 80D. I am thinking of upgrading the body, which camera do I buy, 77d or 80d or any other in the canon stable. I have videos comparing a few of the Sigma ART series lenses… you might want to take a look sometime. Hi Matthew The best lenses will have image stabilization and a large aperture, like the Canon 35mm f/2 or Tamron 35mm f/1.8 VC. If you’re photographing football outdoors at night under the lights, the most important thing is to have a lens that can let in plenty of light… the camera is less important. The 6D makes for an excellent dedicated studio/portraiture/landscape … As far as we can tell, the image sensors in the two cameras are identical, with the same resolution and capture characteristics. They all look the same but you know there has to be a difference between them. Most are entry level, but they include telephoto, macro, nifty 50, and pancake. That is, of course, if you want a traditional portrait lens… I tend to shoot portraits with a 70-200mm f/2.8, which is more flexible. Unfortunately, this is a choice that I can’t help you with: it depends completely on how you like to shoot. Numerically, there’s so little difference between the Canon EOS 80D and the newer EOS 77D that we expect them to offer something very similar to one another. Ps. Could you suggest me any other lens that having range between 130-400 or even 300…. Mount your camera on a sturdy tripod, and turn on the self-timer (the short one is fine). Thanks for the detailed review/ comparison between 77D and 80D. You are guding me amazingly and I am very clear about what lens I should have. Does it matter? I was talked into purchasing a 77D rather than an 80D. Pl also consider the lens inventory and suggest whether I will need any other lens. My current setup of last 5 years is Canon 600D, Tokina 11-16 DXII F2.8, Tamron 18-270mm(use it for allround general clicks). I use these all the time, even though my camera is sealed… weather sealed or not, the warranty doesn’t cover water damage. The Canon EOS 60D and the Canon EOS 77D are two digital cameras that were revealed to the public, respectively, in August 2010 and February 2017. 2. Or do you recommend some other model/producer instead? The 77D is a newer camera, though, and has some minor advantages, so it’s worth thinking about whether you’d need any of them. For low light photography, there’s really no difference between the 77D and 80D; they’re both equally good. I’ve had my eye on a Canon 80D for a while now (I currently have with a Canon SL1). I don’t shoot much video, so I don’t really know. My eyesight has gone down significantly, so I have used the autofocus rather than manual. The 85mm f/1.8 is a good option as a portrait lens, but keep in mind that it will convert to a 135mm lens on the 77D or T6, so it will not be good for taking pictures from close to your subject… you’ll generally want to be a 3 meters away or more, unless you want a very tight portrait. By profession i am a designer … and phtography is my hobby… i have 550D… i will be happy you will advice me for a prefect camera for bird phtography and wildlife phtographty… currently i am using sigma 150 600 lens and it is giving good result. So, if you’re serious about shooting video, I’d consider going with the 80D rather than the 77D. Nikon Z50 vs D7500: Should You Buy a DSLR or Go Mirrorless? As far as we can tell, the image sensors in the two cameras are identical, with the … The weight and size is (kinda) an important aspect since I’m physically small, but I noticed in the comments that the difference between the cameras isn’t much more than 200g. That’s a dramatic difference from the 50mm f/1.8. does 77d with digic 7 final photos are better than 80d digic 6? They’re excellent all around with great image quality and build, as you probably know. Just wondering image quality……would it be spectacular (in 77/80) compared to 700D?? But take a look the difference of both the camera in details. But would that be a waste of money compared to getting the 18-135mm IS USM along with either the 77D or 80D, and which one would you then go for? That said: The 80D is not significantly harder to handle for a beginner than the 77D. Another good option for portraits is the 50mm lens, with both of these cameras. Hope you enjoy using it! The 77D, on the other hand, can only shoot video as IPB MP44 …though it can shoot time-lapse as All-I .mov format files . JPGs carry 8-bits of data, or 256 tonal levels per channel. But you’ll have to decide based on your needs: Do you want a great portrait lens? I have read various articles from you and this one was the one to promt me to write. Or I’ve read your article avobe.that was very beneficialfor me. 67 points. We never accept payment or goods in exchange for positive reviews. I am not sure what the course will cover, but I want her to have a camera that has capabilities she will learn. I am more into low/no-light photography. The Nikon D5600 doesn’t support high-speed sync for flash, you’d need to step up to the D7000 series for that. As usual, I’m happy to answer any questions that you may have below in the comment section. 3. – Matthew. Otherwise, it will be great for shooting video, product shots, portraits, and just about anything else you’ll need it for, short of professional sports photography. I am not sure if weight would be an issue, due to which I prefer 80D, one major point that I had back of the mind was that 77D has an advanced Digic processor, so is it going to effect the performance over 80D, but based on your detailed review, I guess that would hardly matter. But do they? For the types of photography that you mention, the 77D will give you equally good image quality as the 80D, so you can safely buy whichever one is less expensive. Sony’s mirrorless APS-C cameras are around the same price as the 80D; the Sony a6400 and a6500 are both excellent (although the a6500 has built-in image stabilization, which is a big bonus). 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